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These days, unhealthy food is the cheapest and most conveniant available, but health club memberships and fresh fish and vegetables are expensive.

My sister is a lesbian, she is not plump to fat, her ex- girlfriend, was not plump to fat, I mean she was so petite she barely didn't exist.

Lesbians being fat is a generalisation, Do you actually socialise with lesbians? Do you go to bars and check them out, and categorise them?

I've seen the "type" you are talking about but I wouldnt' say that's the majority. I think maybe you've seen that type, and you assume that's what they all look like, since the ones that look "normal" you don't know are lesbians?

Did you do some sort of clinical study that shows that the majority of lesbians are overweight, or are you just going off your general perception?

If you're just going off of your general perception, then I'm guessing you don't spend very much time around lesbians.

According to MY general perception which, granted, is about as useless as yours , none of the lesbians I've ever met which is more than just a couple has been what I would consider overweight.

In fact, a couple of them have been scarily thin. This thread sucks. Probably because they aren't having to worry about their body image because they don't have to deal with stupid American men.

I'd rather be with somebody who loves me for who I am versus somebody who would love me more if I dropped I would say there are a lot of fat lesbians..

I live in a city that has a fairly large gay population and for the most part they look like everyone else.

Now, if you're talking the "sterotypical bull dyke" sure, you're going to see that. But while you're staring at her all the "normal looking" lesbians have kept walking in droves past you and you never knew.

I'm just gonna go from personal experience here I knew two lesbians at college. One was thin and cute, the other big and not-so-cute. Glad I could help.

I have only known for sure two lesbians that I can recall; one was of average height and weight, maybe tending towards thin, and the other was quite tall but also of normal weight for her height.

Neither could be considered the slightest bit fat. From where do you draw your perception? I feel that undergash posting about lesbians has dramtically improved the quality of this thread.

Well, in my experience lesbians are 6'5" bull dykes in biker jackets and bolo ties, or normal looking women. Really not enough data points to make a call and comment on your thesis, except to say that perhaps you need more research.

Geez, why are you so quick to bash lesbian fattening and yet keep saying that Americans are fat? Because they fit your stereotype, and are therefore 'obvious'.

That stereotype fits only part of the lesbian population. Kasava, do you even recognise the non-fat, non-crewcut, non-dungaree-wearing, non-butch lesbians as being - well - lesbians?

Or do you assume that they must be heterosexual like all the other 'normal'-looking women around you? The majority of Americans are fat.

Thus, the majority of women are fat. Thus, the majority of lesbians are fat. Fate, undergash, and others that need a fucking clue: Did I say all?

Or even "most"? How come you didn't take exception to my generalisation of gay men as often being slim? Should everyone write a research paper every time they want to talk about something they've observed anecdotally?

Is it possible to respond to the original post by just saying "you know I think you're wrong, so far as I've seen, the incidence of fatness amongst lesbians seems just the same as amongst straight American women".

Or maybe you could put forth the idea that the dykes I notice are the fat butch ones, just like the fags I notice for various reasons!

Keeping all our little assumptions to ourselves so none of them are ever challenged is obviously the better course of action. Furthermore, whenever someone says anything that you think is wrong, I think you should censure and then denigrate them - your goal in life should be to create an atmosphere that's actively hostile to any sort of frank, honest, and above all polite discourse.

Regardless, take a look through here - this photo album site sort of thing is what prompted this post. You'll see a fair number of fairly broad women.

I think it could be because the reason Women make an effort to look good is to entice men. If they are not trying to entice men what's the point of staying slim?

I don't know, maybe it's healthier for you? I must mention that the link posted above is one of the most fucking amazing and wonderful pages I've seen in my life.

So much happiness. You don't have to be slim to be healthy. Are you saying women don't make an effort to look good to entice women?

Being a lesbian, or a gay man is not a choice you make because you can't be bothered to make an effort to attract the opposite sex and the same sex is less picky.

I really hope you don't decide to be gay to get laid because you can't get laid by the opposite sex, you will be sadly dissapointed.

Whilst it would be nice to think women only make an effort for men, it's not the case, and is a little chauvinist. Women do not become lesbians because they want to be accepted by someone who will not question what they are like, lesbians are not just a bunch of fat ugly fishy crotched girls who just want some loving and willa ccept what they can get.

Being gay is more than just "gay sex", it's about understanding, love, enjoyment, sensations, a deeper understanding.

Many of the concepts in a straight relationship exist in a gay relationship. Just because they don't "do it" the old fashioned way doesn't make them aliens with completely different values.

Not really, when 1 in 3 Americans age 20 through 74 is overweight. Your assertion would only be interesting if there was any kind of empirical evidence that a significantly higher percentage of lesbian-identifying women was overweight than their hetero- or bisexual peers, controlling for age, socioeconomic class etc.

Otherwise, there's really nothing to discuss any more than if I said "how come so many elephants are pink? I'm not one of your unreliable statistics!

Also, at my local mall, I've noticed many women staring at me for no apparent reason. Now, I am not saying that they were lesbians, but they very well might have been, for they would not avert their gaze They were anything but ugly!

No--as with heterosexuals, some lesbians and bisexuals will be unpleasing to the eye, but that is expected--for every orientation!

Some men are not as handsome as others, as with women--some are prettier than others. However, most lesbians, or homosexuals, for that matter, do not go about and flaunt their sexuality all over the place!

You've probably met a few pretty lesbians, but may have not realized it then. I am a lesbian and I am not ugly I'm very feminine and petite.

I don't think that all lesbians are fat and ugly and it's unkind of you to say such. I think this is why lesbians prefer women over men. We have the ability to see past a physical body and into the heart of someone.

I'm assuming you've never watched the L word before? I know the actors aren't lesbians in real life except Alice , but I've seen lesbians that look hot or even hotter than them.

Go to a pride parade or festival - you'll be wishing you were a lesbian by the end of the day The world is so much bigger than what you can see.

There are a lot of attractive women who are lesbians. Most of the ones I know are thin or average weight. Butch lesbians stand out in a crowd and apparently, aren't to your taste.

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